NC State, I've never been, as I said earlier, as scheduled,
and a lot of leadership opportunities at NC State.
I was president of the fraternity; as I mentioned, battalion commander.
When you stand in front of a company
and call them to attention and give some commands, I mean that's-. Try that some time.
[I don't think anyone's going to let me do that.]
"Company, ten hut!" you know. Just to even say it today actually brings back memories.
But NC State was terrific in terms of
leadership, in terms of time management and scheduling,
and in terms of comrades and friends,
you know, in terms of the importance of long time association and friendships,
and of course I learned a lot,
a lot of math, surveying.
When I got to Korea as the company commander was-. I was the operations officer initially, I mean I wasn't required
to do the surveying but just because I could operate the transit level and all that,
it was good to get out there and do a lot of that, and the troops would be sort of semi-impressed, you might way.
So NC State, those four years were the basis for everything I've done since.