But then what I said about Dr. Stafford at his retirement ceremony, which was really kind of special to me, is that when I met him,
I said I kind of felt like Dr. Stafford, I liked him, because he treated me special and he made me feel like I was special,
but then as I got to know him over the years I saw that he wasn't treating me special, that he treated everybody like that.
So just for all of his years of service to the university and to those cadets at North Carolina State that went on to become officers,
not only in the Army but in the Air Force, Navy, and Marines, it's just a small token of our appreciation for what he's done for all those different people out there. So I thought he was more than deserving of that honor.