But that was a big thing for our psyche as an organization, and I think it also was a big thing, although a lot of people probably won't admit it,
but it was a good thing for the blacks, African Americans, at North Carolina State University because it showed that we could now do something that-.
We all, although most people probably wouldn't admit it freely, but you kind of looked up to a lot of the white fraternities because they were able to all be together, they had-.
The one thing about, I mentioned earlier, when you would go to the white fraternities when I came here the first time, part of the reason you did that was to go get a free meal.
They didn't have a meal plan at NC State when I was here in 1973, so everybody cooked in their room or went to the student center, that type thing, so you were pretty much on your own.
So if the fraternity offered you over and dinner was part of the bargain it's like, okay; I have no real intentions of joining these guys but I'm hungry.
I will say everybody that year that was an Alpha was so proud. You could stick your chest out because of that, that we have our own fraternity house.
In other words, one of the things that came with it is that, okay, being a fraternity - unlike the white fraternities. If the members of Delta Sigma Phi wanted to get together they met at their house.
If they wanted to do something they met at their house. If they wanted to have a cookout, if they wanted to have a meeting or something, all of that was available.
We always had to plan somewhere to meet and do those type things, so this gave us a place that we could be proud of
and we could also meet and do those type things that we would always be a different place hopping around doing before. So it was a sense of pride but it had a practical application also.