That year in the spring when the Peace Retreat thing happened,
I just was out in the back of the Erdahl-Cloyd Union and there was a huge rally going on, people speaking about the war and everything,
and I don't know why but next thing I know I found myself standing up there and talking,
which is the first time I'd ever done anything like that in my life, and it just blew up from there.
What was really odd during that period of time is the center of the anti-war movement, although Chapel Hill and Duke were supposed to be these bastions of liberal following and whatever,
the bulk of the anti-war movement and things that happened in North Carolina centered around NC State, not Carolina or Duke,
and part of that was because we were in the state capital, so what was going on on campus was unbelievable.
But the entire university was-. I think that Carolina and Duke professors were used to this kind of liberal following and whatever.
State professors weren't used to that. It was a shock from the chancellor all the way down. They just didn't know what to think about it.
So there was a lot of tension between the students and the faculty and it sort culminated with the Peace Retreat and the request that they suspend classes
and give people the grade they have at that point and drop classes and we'd set up these seminars and speakers and things on campus for the rest of the semester.
ut it was wild, the research everybody was doing and the writing and putting together these seminars and discussion groups and all.
It was pretty incredible, and I mean the number of people-. You know of course the university's attitude was, oh, this is just-.
All these people that are supporting this are only supporting it because they want to get an early vacation for the summer and get out of here, and it proved them wrong.
A huge number of people stayed around and participated in it and it was pretty exciting. It was really good.