When I was student body president
the editor of the Technician, the editor of the Agromeck, the student body president, all three,
were school of design students.
And this dean, Henry Kamphoefner, had always instilled in us as students that we didn't have time to do anything
other than to be in the studios.
Again he was-I say this respectfully-you feared this dean,
and it's always been the smallest of colleges or smallest of the schools
so it's not like the dean of engineering who can't keep up with thirty-five hundred students.
Anyway, but we heard that Dean Kamphoefner had made a talk to one of the Raleigh civic clubs
and we were very thrilled to hear that when he made that talk to the Raleigh civic club
he had bragged that three of his students were editor of the Technician, editor of the Agromeck, and president of the student body,
so that was when we kind of realized, well I guess we're okay and clear.